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KU Collegiate Veterans has no ties to Iraq Veterans Against the War

A little over a week ago, some students were confused by the Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) display on campus.  There was apparently some confusion between our organization (a registered student group at the University) and IVAW, an off-campus group visiting from Kansas City.  KU Collegiate Veterans does not, and will not in the foreseeable future, have any association with IVAW.  Our organizations are largely incompatible in their beliefs and missions.  KU CVA is a nonpartisan organization that does not endorse political candidates or advocate a particular course of action in Iraq or Afghanistan.  Our organizations can agree on only one point, that returning veterans deserve all the support that our nation can give.

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2 Responses to “KU Collegiate Veterans has no ties to Iraq Veterans Against the War”

  1. ArmyVET Says:
    October 9th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    It seems you are VERY similar!
    Although you have a differing stance on the course of the war IVAW CANNOT endorse any candidate and is non-partisan, just like you, and believes for returning veterans deserve all the support that our nation can give.

    I hope you would have the foresight to work with IVAW in your agreeable areas because veterans MUST unite on those issues and IVAW does support you.

  2. KUCVA4LIFE Says:
    October 9th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    First off, KU CVA, and many other non-partisan organizations like it, do not engage in activities that take away from or in any way criticize our nation’s Foreign Policy. To do so is VERY political in nature and carries an image most Veterans such as myself and others I know do not want. Our chapter President spoke with the IVAW chapter President on the day of this event and made certain to clarify any misconceptions between the oraganizations. One of the first things cleared up was that CVA and IVAW have very different ideas of what needs to be accomplished, as well as the tactics used to bring these goals into fruition.

    These differences include protesting our involvement in the War on Terror, specifically in Iraq. CVA has absolutely no official stance on this operation, nor do we have any wish to display one. Our goal is to help Veterans, pure and simple and it doesn’t matter to us whether they are veterans of Iraq or not. When we table on campus, it is merely to put our name out there to the students and let our fellow Veterans know that they are not alone and that there is a community (albeit small) on campus that is out there to help them with unique issues that Veterans face. We feel that protesting/promoting the war in Iraq has a divisive and alienating affect amongst our Veteran community. If someone in IVAW believes this does not occur with demonstrations like two weeks ago, I can very much guarantee you that it did. If that is the mission of IVAW, then Mission Accomplished.

    Another difference in our tactics in gaining support for veterans is evidenced by our work to bring about the 21st Century GI Bill. Members of KUCVA travelled to Washington, D.C. on our own dime and put our case to several Congressional Representatives, and succeeded in getting more than one of them to change their vote in support of the bill. Another example is that of members of KUCVA and our associate organization Student Veterans of America, in creating Veterans Outreach Centers in campuses across the nation, again to assist Veterans with problems that the campus administration is not normally able to assist with.

    In this respect, there is a stark difference between IVAW and KUCVA. Regardless of supporting a candidate being in your constitution or not, the stance of IVAW against the war in Iraq goes strictly against the policy of the very same government that it wants to increase Veterans Benefits. IVAW both criticizes the U.S. Government and in the same breath tries to exact benefits from it, an argument which appears to most Veterans as antithetical. Furthermore, many members of KUCVA are still under their military contracts, be them Active or Inactive Reserve, and are still subject to UCMJ and service-specific orders. The idea of working with an anti-war group (”non-partisan” or not) is quite disturbing to the overwhelming majority of our members, especially IVAW’s past history of appearing at protests wearing their uniforms, which is a uniform violation in every sense of the word.

    In closing, the statement of your group being non-partisan or not is very misleading, given your group’s name is Iraq Veterans Against the War. It says absolutely nothing about working for Veterans Benefits, it says nothing about working with administrative officials. It has the outward appearence of being a dissident group, which can be easily perceived by it’s aforementioned tactics, which seem to draw more ire from students on campus than anything else. In addition it seems to have no aim at helping Veterans in general, be they veterans of Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Kosovo, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, or Beruit. The appearence evidenced by this group is not one that KUCVA wants to be a part of, nor do we wish to have any association with your organization, be it accidental or not.

    Veterans unite for Veterans, not for politics. In this respect, IVAW does not support the goals of KUCVA.

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